Thoughts on Curt Shilling

the noise factor · 04-03-2009, 05:34 PM

In respect to Shiilings announcment to retire this past month. Do you think he should be inducted to the baseball Hall of Fame?
the comparison list for him and the 10 most similar starters in baseball history shows why the decision on electing him to the Hall of Fame will be such a great debate.

There are three Hall of Famers on this list of Schilling’s statistical peers and one future inductee (John Smoltz). (Note: This is regular-season stats only):

Yrs W-L Pct ERA CG SHO IP BB SO
Curt Schilling 20 216-146 .597 3.46 83 20 3261 711 3116
Kevin Brown 15 185-124 .599 3.24 58 15 2857 763 2189
Bob Welch 12 160-111 .590 3.55 42 19 2308 2/3 775 1434
Orel Hershiser 16 193-142 .576 3.54 60 21 2932 2/3 951 1859
Freddie Fitzsimmons 16 180-123 .594 3.57 154 27 2685 1/3 703 727
John Smoltz 15 153-93 .622 3.16 28 11 2415 1/3 640 2273
Milt Pappas 9 112-99 .531 3.45 56 20 1775 1/3 379 911
Don Drysdale * 7 105-93 .530 2.71 91 30 1802 1/3 365 1250
Dazzy Vance * 15 197-136 .592 3.23 215 29 2936 1/3 819 2027
Jim Perry 14 175-137 .561 3.37 85 25 2647 2/3 765 1287
Catfish Hunter * 8 130-77 .628 3.12 115 25 1863 198 452

What's your take?

SlumpBuster · 04-04-2009, 10:52 AM

Schillings gets in but not on the 1st ballot. He was too big of an arrogant prick to get in on the 1st try. 2nd ballot he will get in. REMEMBER...The writers hold bigtime grudges against players they didn't like. And Schilling has plenty that don't like him.

MikeOswald · 04-04-2009, 12:36 PM

Its the hall of fame, not the hall of numbers. While I think he will get in, it won't be the first ballet, and probably not the 2nd either

the noise factor · 04-04-2009, 02:11 PM

I tend to agree with both of you on the 2nd ballot and the fact that Curt has pissed off his share of the media.

Sports Betting Phenom · 04-04-2009, 06:55 PM

Ya and I'm not sure his #'s get him in 1st ballot anyways to be honest

TheWiesguy · 04-05-2009, 08:57 PM

While he has certainly had some dizzying highs he was basically slightly better than average for half his career. He has become more well known as a blowhard than anything else. (Can you tell I don't like the guy)

04-03-2009, 05:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
the noise factor Defensive Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bakersfield, Ca. Posts: 1,341	Thoughts on Curt Shilling In respect to Shiilings announcment to retire this past month. Do you think he should be inducted to the baseball Hall of Fame? the comparison list for him and the 10 most similar starters in baseball history shows why the decision on electing him to the Hall of Fame will be such a great debate. There are three Hall of Famers on this list of Schilling’s statistical peers and one future inductee (John Smoltz). (Note: This is regular-season stats only): Yrs W-L Pct ERA CG SHO IP BB SO Curt Schilling 20 216-146 .597 3.46 83 20 3261 711 3116 Kevin Brown 15 185-124 .599 3.24 58 15 2857 763 2189 Bob Welch 12 160-111 .590 3.55 42 19 2308 2/3 775 1434 Orel Hershiser 16 193-142 .576 3.54 60 21 2932 2/3 951 1859 Freddie Fitzsimmons 16 180-123 .594 3.57 154 27 2685 1/3 703 727 John Smoltz 15 153-93 .622 3.16 28 11 2415 1/3 640 2273 Milt Pappas 9 112-99 .531 3.45 56 20 1775 1/3 379 911 Don Drysdale * 7 105-93 .530 2.71 91 30 1802 1/3 365 1250 Dazzy Vance * 15 197-136 .592 3.23 215 29 2936 1/3 819 2027 Jim Perry 14 175-137 .561 3.37 85 25 2647 2/3 765 1287 Catfish Hunter * 8 130-77 .628 3.12 115 25 1863 198 452 What's your take?

04-04-2009, 10:52 AM	#2 (permalink)
SlumpBuster Wiley Ole Veteran Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 580	Schillings gets in but not on the 1st ballot. He was too big of an arrogant prick to get in on the 1st try. 2nd ballot he will get in. REMEMBER...The writers hold bigtime grudges against players they didn't like. And Schilling has plenty that don't like him. __________________ YTD Picks Record @ CappersPicks.com CBB: 41-29-1 (UP $1,660) MLB: 37-42-2 (DOWN $1520) NFL: NBA: 14-10-1 (UP $160)

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Sports Betting Phenom Wiley Ole Veteran Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cali Baby! Posts: 676	Ya and I'm not sure his #'s get him in 1st ballot anyways to be honest __________________ - - Bet On Sports It's Your National Right! No Matter what the Republicans tell you!!!

04-05-2009, 08:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
TheWiesguy Wiley Ole Veteran Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 546	I vote no While he has certainly had some dizzying highs he was basically slightly better than average for half his career. He has become more well known as a blowhard than anything else. (Can you tell I don't like the guy)

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04-04-2009, 12:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
MikeOswald Up And Comer Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 205	Its the hall of fame, not the hall of numbers. While I think he will get in, it won't be the first ballet, and probably not the 2nd either

04-04-2009, 02:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
the noise factor Defensive Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bakersfield, Ca. Posts: 1,341	I tend to agree with both of you on the 2nd ballot and the fact that Curt has pissed off his share of the media.

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